obama is with mrs. obama. so jeff, one, what do you make of it. will the chattering class here in washington think this is a kind of mini endorsement of hillary for 2016 and how unhappy to do you think joe biden will be tonight when 60 minutes goes on the air. >> he was probably sort of listening in. i'm not sure it is any more than just i think this a good for the president her approval rating is very high among women and among others. why not sort of sit down in the forum. the 60 minutes forum has been friendly to him in the first term. i think it is not an endorsement per se but certainly sort of looks like that. we don't know if she is going to are run for president in 2016. leaving her options open. one thing we sha saw this weeke hill if decides to run her approval rating will go back to what it was before. if she runs for president i think vice president biden will obviously not. a lot of chattering about him is he keeping his options open. he had iowa wans and new hampshire democrats over to his house over is the weekend. think that he is